Hey woman,
Congrats, you are back in news! You were trending on Twitter and featured in Google trends. And thanks, you made many guys look up dictionary.com to understand what sedition meant. You are really of some use!
Well, I read your statement, and I loved it because it was not a fucking 30,000 words essay! Anyway, I had some reactions, please find them below (in bold and in red, adjectives that you prefer?):
Kashmir, Oct. 26: I write this from Srinagar, Kashmir. (Wonderful, you are going places woman, wished you had cared to write something from Bihar or UP; people are suffering due to neglect and bad politics there too, but wait, stay where you are.) This morning’s papers say that I may be arrested on charges of sedition for what I have said at recent public meetings on Kashmir. (LOL! You read and believe newspapers? But I guess that’s what you do when you wake up in the morning – take up a newspaper and find if your name appears anywhere. If not, you plan how it can.) I said what millions of people here say every day. (Millions of people say benc**d in India every day, that doesn’t sanction that term any “social acceptance”) I said what I, as well as other commentators, have written and said for years. (Absolutely, you have NEVER said or written anything NEW. You just pick up issues, after reading the morning newspapers, and join the bandwagon.) Anybody who cares to read the transcripts of my speeches will see that they were fundamentally a call for justice. (Sorry, I didn’t really care to read the transcript of your speeches. Can you make them a bit shorter? I’ve an attention span problem.) I spoke about justice for the people of Kashmir who live under one of the most brutal military occupations in the world; (Oh, Kashmir is an area under military occupation? Thanks, will update my general knowledge and Wikimapia, but wait, how come you were allowed there? Don’t all democratic rights cease to exist in an area under military occupation? Or were you an “embedded activist” like those embedded journalists of CNN in Iraq during the Gulf War?) for Kashmiri Pandits who live out the tragedy of having been driven out of their homeland; (Really? Or are you fucking kidding me?) for Dalit soldiers killed in Kashmir whose graves I visited on garbage heaps in their villages in Cuddalore; (What the fuck is a “Dalit soldier” with a “grave”? I thought Dalits existed only within Hinduism and Sikhism, where there are no graves. Oh okay, next you are writing a 300,000 essay on why Dalits are neither Hindu/Sikh/Christian/Muslim nor Indian, and why the need justice and liberty from the tyrannous Brahminical Indian state?) for the Indian poor who pay the price of this occupation in material ways and who are now learning to live in the terror of what is becoming a police state. (Oh great, so this whole country is under some kind of occupation – police state – what the fuck, you opened my eyes, where is the red flag?)
Yesterday I traveled to Shopian, the apple-town in South Kashmir which had remained closed for 47 days last year in protest against the brutal rape and murder of Asiya and Nilofer, the young women whose bodies were found in a shallow stream near their homes and whose murderers have still not been brought to justice. (Yes, “last year”, and you are visiting the place “now” because your heart bleeds for a common Kashmiri.) I met Shakeel, who is Nilofer’s husband and Asiya’s brother. (Wait a minute; you were also in Delhi a couple of weeks back. Did you meet any Kashmiri Pandit, for whom you claimed to be seeking justice in the earlier paragraph?) We sat in a circle of people crazed with grief and anger who had lost hope that they would ever get insaf — justice — from India, and now believed that Azadi — freedom — was their only hope. (Have you seen the Bollywood movie Gulaal? You can sit in such circles almost in each part of this country and listen to cries of Azadi from imagined powers. There are Brahmins in this country, whom you think control everything, who feel “trapped” in the modern state that is implementing reservations for everyone except them.) I met young stone pelters who had been shot through their eyes. (Did you meet that Indian policeman who lost his eye after a 5 kg stone hit his eye?) I traveled with a young man who told me how three of his friends, teenagers in Anantnag district, had been taken into custody and had their finger-nails pulled out as punishment for throwing stones. (I once traveled with a Hindu in Ahmedabad, who told me how Muslims had created an “acid pool” in “their area” and used to throw Hindus in them during riots; there have been many riots in Ahmedabad, not just during 2002, for your kind information. Of course I didn’t believe him and went out to write an essay or even a fake news article. I don’t believe people easily and form opinions. If the state can’t be trusted blindly, that doesn’t mean I’d trust every other non-state actor blindly. Oh, non-state actor!)
In the papers some have accused me of giving ‘hate-speeches’, of wanting India to break up. (Yes, there are idiots who take you seriously.) On the contrary, what I say comes from love and pride. (ROFLMAO!) It comes from not wanting people to be killed, raped, imprisoned or have their finger-nails pulled out in order to force them to say they are Indians. (But you are fine and your conscience is not disturbed if someone does the same to people and force them to say that they are NOT Indians?) It comes from wanting to live in a society that is striving to be a just one. (“just” one or “just one”? People like you are surely not going to let this society be “just one”. It would be broken into Dalits, Tribals, Muslims, Brahmins, Christians, Poor, Rich, Women, etc. I want my society and country to be “just one” for god’s sake!) Pity the nation that has to silence its writers for speaking their minds. (Yes, yes, pity the nation that produces such writers. Today I’m proud of Chetan Bhagat, seriously.) Pity the nation that needs to jail those who ask for justice, while communal killers, mass murderers, corporate scamsters, looters, rapists, and those who prey on the poorest of the poor, roam free. (Yes, I’d pity the nation only if you were “actually” jailed, and you won’t be, dear, because this is a country that doesn’t need your pity.)
Hail the PAGAL PATARKAR…. atleast some one exist who’s not biased or form opinion from others statements
we dont need her —pity–seriously—–her letter was simply—utter nonesense—–really appreciate the way u have clarify— (p —patrakar))
Check out my link and you will understand ..please go there and visit the place and then comment
Nice try to get hits on ur blog. LOL!!!
Ne prob dude?everybody does it..:P
my friend do you my telling me what the letter was about?!
Its time for all Indians to wake up and show the likes of Arundhati Roy their places…. the shit hole. Our govt cannt do anything coz of various real and imaginary constraints
i would like to cut her tongue if i get chance like in middle east. if she born in middle east she would get raped thousand times.
You deserve Middle East, at least you have such a mentality
oh yeah..you would?! why don’t you take some english classes first?
haha! good one!
arushi y u heated up? is she ur mommy Arundhati??
@arushi
madam ji angrejii ki teacher lag rahi hai….
arundhati roy…..pls come and clean my toilet…becoz i m kashmiri pandit….
Madam,
To do what Ramana says he will do, you don’t need to know English. Or may the English were the ones who did all these better than others
@Ramana – don’t give her that curse please !!! cut off her tongue and kill her but don’t curse her of rape atleast !!! that worst..
a location can not defined your sensibilities…. you show yours by speaking thus! what are YOU upset with her for??? beats me man!
Come on man …. She is shit piece n not worth raping…
I don’t like ur expression but I understand ur sentiment..she is full of shit
Super Bitch A. Roy… likes messing up and using it for her bloody popularity… U know why?? coz after reading her name so many times in Newspapers, there are idiots like us who buy her stupid books…. Share this for the sake of Indian Democracy!!
Excellent !!
just hats off to u fn(rahul) keep going like this u rock and ppl like arunadity sucks.
india is incredible and one and ll remain one
jai hind 
Brilliant.
Honestly, this woman was never on watch list. In fact I have created a filter that weeds out anything that contains her name. However your post was recommended to me by a friend and boy am I glad to read it.
I hate these Intellectuals … or that’s what they want to be referred as. Ooops, I am not a violent person, so let me say, I ‘dislike’ these intellectuals. Bunch craps. They be wearing UV protection glasses, with designer watches and expensive hand made dresses (made by those poor Kashmiri, or dalit or tribal or …) and ‘visiting’ such places. Nike, Reebok or something of that sort to protect them feet and make the walking comfortable.
After the trip them intellects will adorn another expensive, exclusive silk outfit, wear some ethnic looking accessories and jewellery and do a special make up to look sober and present a press conference, only utter crap.
Good comments my friend. It was fun to read it. Keep it up.
ha! intellect . does she have any ??
So what you’re saying is that the only difference between Roy and the rest of us is that she wears all these labels while going to all these places and reporting what she sees, while we wear all these labels and go to the mall?
I’m not too sure about what Mr. Guppydas meant, but even if it means what you implied, it’s still better than what Ms. AR does; at least we’re not hypocrites..!
While I disagree with the tone and political stance of this post, I should say that I think this is the appropriate way for Roy’s ideological opponents to respond to her comments. Respond to her free speech, with your own free speech, and do not call for the law to get involved. It is a shame that some of the comments here threaten violence.
One thing you should take more seriously is the threat of sedition charges. You say you are confident that no charges will actually be brought, but the very suggestion that they might be, the very existence of these laws, is abhorrent. Why? It is inevitable that sooner or later they will be used to threaten some politician or writer or religious leader who you support! And when that happens, and you did not speak out against these terrible laws when Arundhati Roy was threatened, you will look like a hypocrite.
A final thought about these sedition laws: They are a creation of the British, used to oppress those who demanded independence! Now an Indian government and police force are finding those same laws a little too convenient. Time for India to shrug off this illiberal law.
well said robert…
110% agree, robert. PP’s post is trying too hard, though, doesn’t quite make it
Your concerns have been taken care of in a reply below Robert
http://blog.fakingnews.com/2010/10/an-open-letter-to-arundhati-roy/comment-page-1/#comment-239
Where in the article above do you find any suggestion towards support for sedition laws? In fact, the last sentence suggests that even Pagal Patrakar would pity India if Arundhati Roy were arrested under sedition charges!
Robert didn’t say Patrakar supported sedition. Go back and re-read the comment. He did bring up a good point though, that the ease with which a sedition law can, and is being used, should make even the most ultra- of nationalists a bit squeamish. It seems naive to think that Patrakar would actually pity Roy if she was thrown in jail for sedition, given that the overall tone of his response to her was one of contempt.
sedition cant be allowed at any cost, even if “our fav politicians” do something like this, “we” wont support them.
what independence? what is in India will stay in India
Mr robert, after reading ur name, i knew u will obviously make these kind of comments
Damn you. The name is all you need to judge a person? Which boondock do you come from?
true!
even though i fully agree that its a publicity stunt for her… and i never read anything that comes form this women.. i still believe that the people of kashmir are suffering unnecessarily… the leaders of all the sides never want this issue resolved. or it would have been resolved long time ago…
also nationalism and patriotism are bullshit concepts that this civilization has come up with… there would be much [peace in this world if they were gone for good.. most of the comments above contain these two sentiments..
While I agree with robert on the point that the thought itself of sedition law being brought seems dangerous for freedom of speech, I would also like to point out that democracy doesnt mean one can speak whatever shit one wants to.
We are a democratic country. There are rights, but there are duties as well. One must understand that if every day in some part of the country, some tom dick or harry starts ranting off like this, instigating the youth (many who may be unemployed, or employed by stone pelters) we surely are going to have a tough time to progress.
Going as far as telling the youth to not join the Armed forces is crazy. The very reason that Ms Roy was even able to go to Shopian etc etc was because the armed forces are standing there protecting India from its eager, land grabber neighbours. One more point in Mr Patrakar’s post which caught my eye was that she visited stone pelters and was worried about how their eyes were hit. First thing is why were those young ones even throwing stones when they should have been in schools and homes playing with marbles. Well hasnt she read a saying which goes ” Do unto others what you want others do unto you ”
Democratic control of such fundamentalists is essential as they threaten to harm the very roots of the Indian Constitution. Such speeches, protests and more curfew is only going to make the harsh winter even worse. Its time the kashmiri people realised that progress is possible only if there is peace. They have already lost the tourist season this year. Wish they dont lose another.
Robert, democracy is not defined by absense or presence of “freedom of speech”. It is where a country demarcates free speech from loose talk that we really know whether it is democratic or not. I am free to call Manmohan Singh a rubber stamp PM, but when I start calling him madam’s stooge and exhort people to throw him out wih guns (stones maybe) then I transgress my right to freedom of expression and hence lose my right.So please don’t try to defend A.R. by using that oft repeated word (oh by the way will u defend Varun Gandhi, Raj Thackeray etc. with the same argument?). Sedition may have been defined by Britishers but it is as relevant today as it was yesterday though in a differnet context (the railways were also introduced by Brits so they could cart of our wealth to ports faster, so does that mean we boycott rails
).
You make it look like all you care is wheher people get their rights ( right to free speech sigh), but it is equally necessary that people also respect the constitution and the nation taht gives them this right.
Oh and one last thing, there was no call to silence her when she called Maoists ‘Gandhians with Guns’, that was because she has freedom of speech. So people just called her lunatic and crazy(they have their own freedom of speech), but when you start supporting separatists(lets not go into whether they are right or wrong), you ought to be punished
well said..
Very precise and neat arguments, i must say!
There is no place for violence in a democracy. Neither there is any place for its support. If she supports it in any way, I’d not defend her ‘freedom of speech’. Otherwise it must be defended. Tradition of argument is always a healthy sign of society. In some ways, what ‘Barkha Dutt’ did is more troublesome than what A.R. does. There is hardly any chance that she is capable of undermining any democratic institute. Though her writing (razor sharped and blinded with passions) can show loop-holes in system.
As far as Kashmir is concerned, its location is its biggest misfortune. Its remarkable how the heaven have been turned into hell by a good-for-nothing neighbor and knee-jerk approach of Indian government.
By the way, the rise of ‘rape-talk’ by bastards in this thread is more troublesome that her.
Thnks Robert for voice of reason. It is so easy to label a person unpatriotic and idotic when he/she says soemthing uncomfortable. But PP might want to check on some documents that establish the fact The Instrument of Accession was never signed in good faith afterall, which only raises doubts on GoI’s intent towards Kasmir. While no Indian would want Kashmir to be seperated from Indian Union, it is also true that “Kashmir is an integral part of India” has been wrongly ingrained in our conciousness. PP might also want to consider for a moment that our first PM, Nehru himself promised a plebiscite, which has not been implemented for reasons very simple to understand, hence rendering the plebisicite a cruel joke on Kashmir. Yet, that can only qualify Kashmir a responsibility India took and doesnt provide a ground to claim the land its own. In the midst of mess the British created and greediness of India, Pakistan and China, Kashmir stands the only victim, by all standards.
I disagree…freedom needs boundaries to be defined. You can’t get away with saying anything anywhere anytime. Why? Because it never happens and can never happen in real life. Because you statements have consequences. And because the person making the speech is also taking the point in time and occassion into account before bothering to make a speech. Because ‘so called high principles’ when they are actually never implemented in reality ever in known history and never can be….I find those principles and the stand taken for such false moralistic standards and the convoluted arguments necessary to justify those..as lies..as fake!
. Are your thoughts free? really 
?
So yes, u cannot have free speech without accountability. U thinking of Utopia? Even then you could not demonstrate EVER that it will work. Because YOU CANNOT DIVORCE CAUSE FROM EFFECT…so Sedition is justified…rest since u r free to write long essays on it..don’t worry..ur freedom of speech is still intact…and freedom is speech is just a outward display of freedom of thought
robert as naive as you are!!! ofcourse nothing is going to happen to ms. roy – she is in India; Not Pakistan or Afghanistan. what an irony – she supports the stone pelters in kashmir who want to carry out the paki hidden agenda and take control of a strategic point if there is a war or to control the flow of water.
she is good at raking up and coming up with controversial statements; ofcourse with her limited perception to get as much publicity she gets. The indian media did give this “One Book Wonder” a second chance.
If there are any indians on this site who are supporting ms. roy, i would really want to know your point of view i.e. if you have any?
WONDERFUL !!!
traitors like arundati roy should be given death penalty. Your ‘pen-bashing’ is good enough in this traitors’ society.
Jai Hind.
Prasad Karkare
she has done a yeoman service, she has united a lot of us and has inspired patriotism in us.
She is trying to score brownie points by making her nonsensical post sensational.
i HATE her!
Brilliant..
@Robert:
“It is a shame that some of the comments here threaten violence. ”
Relax pal…these are just empty blog comments from bored keyboard punchers.
I’m interested though, in your point of view about Ms Roy’s full-throated endorsement of armed rebellion against the Indian state, with, oh I don’t know, rocket launchers, landmines, grenade launchers, and some AK-47s thrown in for good measure (just Gandhians with Guns defending themselves from brutal military occupation, nothing serious…). Also, don’t get too worked up about a motley bunch of ‘misguided youth’ who, in their youthful jest for life, carried out a small operation in Mumbai. Ms Roy asks us to understand their compulsions to carry out these very understandable acts.
So nothing too difficult. Just wondering whether if Ms Roy’s comments and track record constitute a ‘shame’ in your world view. And whether I can request you to please ‘understand’ the compulsions of some commentators here who want to roast her over a spit.
“And whether I can request you to please ‘understand’ the compulsions of some commentators here who want to roast her over a spit.”
+1
Wonderful reply!
loved ur reply
Again with the over-the-top imagery – “roast her over a spit”…
Whether you like it or not, there are notions such as “democracy,” “liberalism,” and yes, even ” nationhood,” which are valid target for criticism, and I think questioning these things is what partly informs many of Roy’s arguments. Why be infuriated by a skeptic? When you eventually leave the parades and your cheerleaders, and take a step back, you’ll see that there are similar struggles all over the world. Sooner or later, our concepts of how we think the world should be organized will seem like the conjured up machinations of children.
DAMN AGREE MAN DAMN !!!!
I m also writing something regarding this issue ….
Excellent Reply Subhadeep !
“these are just empty blog comments from bored keyboard punchers.”
Whew. For a second there I thought you guys were serious. I guess I need to figure out a way to “weed out” the people randomly throwing opinions about from the ones who actually think.
India is still suffering badly in the name of a partition to appease fanatics. The product, Pakistan proved fatal to the security and integrity of our country. We should not create another Pakistan through Kashmir. Whether it is Arundhati Roy or her mother Mary Roy, I think people like her get paid for churning out this sort of pseudo-intellectual garbage, poisoning the integrity of our country.
she really gets paid by the mao supported china
No… she’s just a suck up.
Superb! Made my day!
Thank you, so much.
This is the nicest and most “rational rant” I have ever read! Great going Pagal Patrakar, you are a much better writer than that Arundhati Roy!
I “love” the nation that has produced an adorable pagal patrakar
you have out done yourself here pp, i loved every word of your article. what a true patriot you are. we need more like you to silence andhi roys.
I think roy will tell you she visited christian or muslim dalit graves. they too have them just like hindus n sikhs.
the jnu brigade is supporting her whole heartedly hope you write a befitting reply to the so called advocates of free speech.
according to one such writer, sedition is unconstitutional. read her article here
this is just a brilliant article….!!!!!
very good….
Wish every indian get chance to read it….
Good job done…
Hats off for d writter….
This whole effrts should be com on..all tv channls…all new papers…
Thanks for such hard work…
The best article I have read in a long time. Pagal Patrakar rocks.
Pity the nation that has to silence its writers for speaking their minds. (Yes, yes, pity the nation that produces such writers. Today I’m proud of Chetan Bhagat, seriously.) ROFL.!
Hail , Paagal Patrakaar :bow :bow
The bitch just got owned.
Fantastic reply….Kudos to u.
hey pagal patrakar there is a news for you david fincher after making movie on mark zuckerberg in the social network they have now decided to make a movie on you it will called The Faking Effect !!!
great job done by you….hats off…every indian should get a chance to read it…